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    I can only reply on Federal brass. I have a friend that works at Federal (ATK). He has told me Manny times the American Eagle brass is seconds. Usually the primer pocket is just a tad on the large side. I have reloaded the MSR, XM68GD and the AE labeled brass. I can say without a doubt that the primer pockets loosen up much faster on the AE brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedro View Post
    Why yes, yes I am.
    I'm in the process of throwing out old useless info so I can put new info into this old brain of mine. It's quite the undertaking.
    I am not new to reloading.

    You seem to think that what you have learned in other trades is transferable to reloading, including the terminology. You need to take a step back and listen to what people are telling you.

    A staked primer is a staked primer. You still need to remove material or swage the primer pocket to properly engage a new primer into the case.

    A crimped primer is just a better way of securing the primer to milspec. I swage and go with it.

    Lake City has done some staking in the past and I have used the brass with good results. I swage the primer pocket and all is good.

    I have not seen any staked Lake City brass for a few years now unless it is old stuff, and then it has only been 5.56. I can't say if they stopped staking primers or not, other than than I've seen nothing newer than about 2006 or so that was staked.

    I could be wrong here but I have never heard of any staked 6.8SPC ammo. It has all been crimped unless there has been no additional securing of the primer other than press fit.

    I do not buy 6.8 ammunition. I have enjoyed the development process and listen to those that know what is going on. It has worked out good for me.

    I am not new to reloading.

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    Thanks Ole Silver.
    Lesson learned.

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    It's neither here nor there as it pertains to this thread, but as an interesting point in 6.8 history, Remington's earliest ammo was staked at three points.

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    That was what I was referring to.
    But I'm not here to argue. I just want to learn.

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    When it comes down to the definition if the terms, staking is the correct word here. The industry has been incorrectly using the word crimp. Bearings are often "ring-staked" in bell cranks and fittings in the same manner primers are secured in military brass.


 

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