Mr. Wilson got himself a biggn'!!
Mr. Wilson thinks he will even get a bigger one when his PVS-22 arrives!
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Either that is a huge hog or he is sitting 6 feet behind it to make himself look smaller. Is there a picture of it on a scale of some kind? Maybe a heart girth measurement photo? Not that I don't believe it... I just want to see some real measurements.
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Granted I did use some of my game photography skills to maximize the visual effect...............the boar still went 230# and was the best one I've shot in a few months. Took him at 80yds with a lightweight 458 SOCOM shooting Barnes 300gr TAC TX bullets at 1750fps MV, he was DRT on the spot. One of the Barnes guys took a 222# boar with good teeth Wed night too. also with a 458.Originally Posted by Afalex1
I was guessing 200-250# but it is hard to tell in a photo like that. The 458 is an awesome round. Congrats on a great hunt.
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Yes Bill shoots Nice BIG hogs, and he knows how to take Great Photo's.
Bill, do the hogs react different when being hit with a 6.8 110 TTSX, vs the 458 sledgehammer?
Yes, I'm watching your new 458 SOCOM project !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice boar !!! Congrats on that one !
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After shooting over 1000 hogs and guiding hunters to several hundred more here is my conclusion on putting hogs down DRT, recovering them or loosing them.
First off brain/head shots are out, the brain is a small target and a hog's head is rarely motionless so this is a VERY iffy shot to take and I don't.
If you shoot them in the neck or where the neck meets the front shoulder and sever the spine they are ALWAYS DRT on the spot. Doesn't really matter what you shoot them with, 5.56 works fine with a bullet that has good penetration. Reaction from a 5.56 is about the same as a .458 SOCOM, they drop, kick and die.
If you shoot them in the lungs at least 75% of the time they run off, often without showing any sign of being hit. Bigger is better here, 6.8s, 300 BLK/Whisper, 7.62x40, etc are minimum calibers. They are more prone to react to the hit and usually don't go as far when hit with larger calibers. However no matter what you hit them with they often don't leave a blood trail for 25 or more yards making it difficult to recover them in the thick ****.
A heart shot is much the same as a lung shot, they just show a reaction on bullet impact less and usually run as far.
Shot them anywhere else, especially with a caliber less than a .308 and you will be very lucky to recover the hog unless your in a very open area, here in NE TX you have very little chance of finding them.
I always try for a quartering to me shot when possible, shoot them where the neck meets the shoulder in the vertical center and a high percentage of the time you get the spine and they are DRT, if you miss or just stun the spine your bullet will still go through the lungs and you will most likely recover the hog.
The ABSOLUTE WORST place to shoot a hog is in the ribcage, nothing vital there and 99% of the time you will not recover this hog. A gut shot with a big caliber/bullet make them pretty sick and you will sometimes recover the animal.
Sorry Bill,
But I feel I have to call you on a few points you made in your last post on hog shot placement , now my hog experience does not match yours , I don’t have 1000 kills but I do have close to a few hundred hogs, with calibers ranging from 22lr & 22 mag to 50bmg, and I do have a small medical history as a EMT , as well as several years as a receiving agent for a taxidermist in Alaska that gave me the opportunity to study the anatomy of different animals, (skinned and caped over 50 bears) 5 years as a massage therapist gave me a hands on working knowledge of tendons, ligaments, muscle, and connective tissue and the opportunity to dissect un-embalmed human cadavers. That being my background.
So people need to understand what causes death. It’s one of 3 things for certain and I like to relate them to how your car runs and what causes it not to run.
1. Lack of fuel /Death lack of blood pressure
2. No Spark / Death no elc impulse to vital organs as in damage to the brain or spine
3. No air / Death no oxygen to the brain via the blood
Now I have found Head shots work very well (if) the bullet is placed in such a way that it slices the pie to the center of the head, ( center being between the eye to slightly rear of ear canal). The brain is encased in fluid to protect it from the skull, leak this fluid and it will result in unconscious and disrupt the Elc impulse , I have never seen a patient at a car wreck or bar fight with fluid from the nose or ears that was conscious to any level much less could stand or walk! Shot many of hog with 22 mag out to 100 yards in the head slicing the pie to the center of the head, and had DRT or dropt right there without hitting the brain. Yes spine shots work , and work EVERY TIME to all organs and muscle groups below the damage no spark to muscle groups and organs below the damage, you are causing a short in the system. now note the spine is not larger in OD than the brain just longer and is incased and well protected in connective tissue and muscle , when making spine shot I prefer to place them where the spine meet the skull, Just as your perferr a 1/4ing shot into the vital organs lung, liver, I perferr one the 1/4s into the brain. Again damage to the spine will cut the Elc impulse to all organs and muscle groups below the damage. How many time have we seen spine shot deer or hogs drag themselves away on their front legs, I have seen a bear do it 100 yards up hill taking hits below the spine shot the whole way, it had no feeling below the spine shot.
Now what prompted my reply was your statement “The ABSOLUTE WORST place to shoot a hog is in the ribcage nothing vital there” Come on Bill, next hog you shoot I suggest you dissect it, not just gut it or ¼ it but skin it and dissect it piece by piece. (I suggest everyone do this on any game you intend to hunt or shoot) You will find that all major organs needed to sustain life are located in the ribcage ie; Heart, both lungs, and liver, that’s why they are protected by the ribcage and the shoulders, separated from the rest of the not so immediately important organs, by the diaphragm. This is where we have a chance to disrupt & cause two of the reasons for death or reasons your cars not running. Lack of Fuel/blood pressure, Air/ lack of oxygen to the blood and in turn to the brain, you still have spark! Just no fuel or the fuel you get has no air mixture.
I feel that shot placement is dictated by the cartridge & bullet construction, not caliber, not velocity, but the combination with bullet construction. That being said I prefer a double lung shots through the ribs , I find a 223 @ 3100 fps and a 60 gr v-max works wonders on both lungs when placed behind the shoulders, I prefer my 243 @ at 3750 and the 58gr V-max, I know it’s a varmint round but all I’m doing is trying to get through 1” of flesh and maybe a ¼” of rib bone then I want it to come apart in all directions inside the ribcage, where all the good stuff is. The only time I will ever shoot a hog in the shoulder (intentionally) is with a large caliber or high velocity & heavy a constructed bullet. Hit one in the shoulder with a 50BMG and it ran 100 yards. You don’t’ like ribcage shots I don’t’ like shoulder shots.
The majority of hogs shot outside of the spine or brain will run, and like a fat fall bear they have a heavy layer of fat and a thick skin that will seal the wound and not leave a blood trail. I generally get one standing shot to the head, the rest are on the run an I’m going for the ribcage. Yes I have to look for a few but I have never looked farther than 150 yards, that’s a long way to run even for a wild animal when the oxygen is not being replaced
So in ending lets agree that no two bullet wounds are alike and no two animals or people for that matter react the same way to being shot, regardless of shot placement or caliber used, But Bill you being a well-respected person in the shooting industry should know better than to use such words as Always, and Absolutely on the internet, or make statement like Nothing vital in the ribcage? Who knows this may not even be the real Bill Wilson but just someone that works for him, if so time to get another subject to give an opinion on or do your home work
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