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[HillbillyStyle]

This guy should've been banned a long time ago. All were doing here is providing him with 300BO internet fodder. Get rid of the drama and delete everything.

[dark1]

Silvers this limiting the 6.8 to 55k is getting old it is just like the BS that us that shoot 7.92x57 go threw with sammi. Sammi tells us they is is unsafe to load a 8mm higher than an anemic 45kpsi but the European ammo industry said it can be loaded to 60k safely that is te difrance between the crap Rem 8mm pushing a 169gr at 2300fps and euro spec ammo pushing 198gr rounds to 3000fps. Thus The resin the 8mm has never taken off here in the us but is still one of the most used hunting rounds in Europe and Africa.

If you want to handicap your ammo with false limitations so be it I proffer my ammo to work.

[Aspp]

Wow, go to sleep for 6 hours and 5 more pages of worthless banter. Im over this. Im still going to talk with Barnes because there is no way the same bullet, in the same loaded cartriage, can have the exact same expantion and penitration no matter the distance. Phyisics says so, and so far I have not found a black hole to refute phyisics.

[constructor]

The 300 isn't a totally useless round it has some good points for those guys that think pulling the bolt out of their 556 and using the same mags is important.
Performs decent for a subsonic 30 cal, as a matter of fact exactly like all other subsonic 30 cals since they are all traveling the same velocity. They shouldn't be used for hunting. Looks cool for mall Ninjas at the range stroking their cans. It can take big game if you keep the range resonable. Personally I have no use for one because I have other rifles that do everything better. I'm not a suppressor guy mainly because they just aren't that quite, no where near Movie quite like everyone thinks until they buy one. The fact is the 300BLK/whisper is apx 200fps slower than a 7.62x39 with the same weight bullets. Trying to use a 7.62x39 or 300blk/whisper to shoot 500yds is just stupid, it's not made for that and trying to turn a 2250fps rifle into a sniper rifle is a loss of sanity.
If I wanted to use a can to hunt hogs(hogs can hear the shot even subsonic) I would still rather shoot supersonic with a can, since the terminal performance is so much better. The 6.8 beats the 300blk/whisper at every range for trajectory, energy, wind drift and terminal performance because there is no substitute for case capacity.
Skewing the numbers by picking a heavier 30 cal bullet and a light 6.8 bullet shows desperation. It is what it is and no amount of used car sales tactics will change the facts. It may fool some of the people that can't figure it out on their own which is what Silvers is trying to do to make sales.

[dark1]

But O yeah that is right if SAMI let8mm be loaded to euro spec it would way out preform the 30-06 they wouldn't what that.... Just like you trying to limit the 6.8 to 55k so your .300wtf looks better than it is.

[WVHunter1s1k]

This guy should've been banned a long time ago. All were doing here is providing him with 300BO internet fodder. Get rid of the drama and delete everything.

I agree! 13 pages, & I'd say 10 has much of the same stuff ad nauseam!!

[Aspp]

The 6.8 beats the 300blk/whisper at every range for trajectory, energy, wind drift and terminal performance because there is no substitute for case capacity.
Skewing the numbers by picking a heavier 30 cal bullet and a light 6.8 bullet shows desperation. It is what it is and no amount of used car sales tactics will change the facts. It may fool some of the people that can't figure it out on their own which is what Silvers is trying to do to make sales.

I had been thinking this but was having a hard time putting it into words, thanks H! Honestly, how is a almost straight necked round with less capacity keeping up with a smooth shouldered round with more capacity? A used car salesman once told me "You cant beat pure cubic inches", and its the closest to the truth I have ever gotten out of a used car salesman, and a lot more than we are going to get out of rslivers.

[rsilvers]

Silvers this limiting the 6.8 to 55k is getting old

It is not just me. Western Powders, Federal, Hornady, Remington, PMC, Tula, and Chris Murray also believe this.

Murray would prefer the pressures at 52,000 psi actually, and that is based on sound engineering.

[rsilvers]

The fact is the 300BLK/whisper is apx 200fps slower than a 7.62x39 with the same weight bullets.

Please stop saying this. It is about 100 fps at the muzzle, and due to the higher BC of the 300 BLK bullets, the 300 BLK has 16.7% more energy at 300 meters. I have given you specific examples many times, and you keep on spreading misinformation.

[rsilvers]

Skewing the numbers by picking a heavier 30 cal bullet and a light 6.8 bullet shows desperation

It shows an understanding of sectional density.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/resc...hp/density.htm

A 110 grain 308 bullet is a 0.166 sectional density.

An 89 grain 277 bullet is also a 0.166 sectional density. The 85 grain bullet of my example is the closest to the same.