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    Default Gospel of Violence, any educated opinions?

    Watching some clips of "Beyond the Firearm 2" on youtube and following the links to http://www.gospelofviolence.com/, made me very interested. Has anyone here had anything more than casual contact with this material?

    Aside from years of martial arts training and 3-gun match experience I have no tactical instruction in the use of firearms, so I humbly beg the opinion of the edified.

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    Looks like a mall ninja's wet dream really.

    Find a good training class in your area and go to it. EAG teaches all over. you could look up Grey Group as well. or Vickers. Also Tactical Response is in the Tennessee area as well. And highly touted. I would put more into what I learn from people like that then a website with a dark screen and scary music. IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesb74 View Post
    Looks like a mall ninja's wet dream really.

    Find a good training class in your area and go to it. EAG teaches all over. you could look up Grey Group as well. or Vickers. Also Tactical Response is in the Tennessee area as well. And highly touted. I would put more into what I learn from people like that then a website with a dark screen and scary music. IMHO.
    WOW!!! Creepy music. MALL NINJA certified.



    I deal with about 5%-10% of the population 80%-90% of the time...

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    Never trained with this place, but read up on Sonny Puzikas before you pass judgement. If you check out the marketing done by many foreigners is laughable at best, but the training is sound. For example, Pavel Tsatsouline's "Enter the Kettlebell." Marketing aimed straight at 13 y/o boys, but sound training methods. I believe that sonny is former spetznaz.
    Stupid should hurt.

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    The weapons handling in the GoV Youtube videos makes a great case for the AK74. Mr. Puzikas is fmr. Spetznas, and has been seen on "Deadliest Warrior" as their Spetznas expert.

    Thanks to JamesB74 for the training leads, I will have to schedule a conveniently-timed vacation or two for next year! I'm not so prideful as to think a few shooting matches will prepare me for serious defense work with my rifles, it might give me an edge over most of the rogues in the region but shooting matches do not train for combat. As Master Bruce Lee said "(Card)board doesn't hit back".

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    I personally cant knock them for being a bit fancy as that much camera coverage would bring out the media hound in anyone.
    I am not sure how much of that stuff works on problem solving creatures who are looking to evade or attack.
    These Russian guys are pretty nuts and have caveman strength but all that flailing around is a bit much for me.
    Violence shouldnt have to look and feel technical at all.

    If you are looking to learn to run a gun then there are plenty of good cadres here in conus. If you are looking to apply those mediums learned behind a firearm on real live people then I suggest FOF training utilizing AEG or GBB rifles.
    I have not been doing as much live fire training as of late becuase of basically what someon mentioned above... in-animate targets do not fight back and there is only so much simulation that one can do with non thinking, non problem solving targets that are not orienting themselves so they can return fire.
    I consider myself pretty decent behind a few different firearm tools but I didnt realize what one would be getting themselves into if ever involved in a firefight until I got as close to actually being shot at for real as I could get...
    Its not just proficiency behind a gun under pleasant conditions...its how your guns and your gear works for you and how you work around any issues while under combative stress and in unconventional positions.

    In a nutshell, all this is a personal journey that only you in the end can decifer what will actually be good for survival and what is great entertainment.
    "Everyone has been given a gift in life. Some people have a gift for science and some have a flair for art. And warriors have been given the gift of aggression. They would no more misuse this gift than a doctor would misuse his healing arts, but they yearn for the opportunity to use their gift to help others. These people, the ones who have been blessed with the gift of aggression and a love for others, are our sheepdogs. These are our warriors"


 

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