This sounds promising
Ok, I talked to Berry at C-Products at length on the phone and I have good answers.
We WILL receive our mags, guaranteed. Berry is a shooter and head engineer and a big part of the company.
He stated he would personally pay for us getting the mags if something was going South. Which it is NOT!!
There was major changes with the company and I am not going to go into details as to what happened. But, he did explain what really happened with the company and they are and will be in business for a long, long time.
All I can say owning several businesses, CRAP happens and that is what happened at C-Products. It had nothing to do with finances, selling product or paying vendors. Just leave it that they got crapped on and major changes had to be made to correct the problem and it has been corrected.
Berry told me he does have some mags but not all of them. They will start shipping some of them within a week. For the complete order to be filled expect them to ship in THREE weeks. There is NOTHING he can do to speed it up.
Those who ordered TAN mags are going to be getting BLACK ones. That is just the way it is and he is very, very sorry for not being able to get the tan ones made up. CRAP happens and sometimes it is better to get the product in the wrong color then not get the product at all. If you are going to have a hairy fit by not getting the tan ones no amount of screaming will change the fact that they can NOT get the tan ones. My advice is take the black ones and sell them. Heck, if you don't want them PM me and I will buy them off of you for what you paid for them.
I see NO reason that those of us on this board need to keep calling C-Products now that we know what is going on and ALL orders WILL be filled and shipped out.
Berry told me that IF there was a problem and the mags would not ship out in THREE weeks he WILL call me ASAP. BUT, he foresees NO reason or excuse they will ship out in three weeks.
Again, I truly hope I have NOT stepped on anyone's toes and If I have I am truly sorry. I just wanted to get to the bottom of this and get it resolved for ALL of us.
I have given you all the information that I can over this. I hope the next posts that we all see are the ones that the Mags arrived in the mail.
If anything changes or I hear again from Berry I will post it ASAP.
Last edited by BlueWing; 03-04-2011 at 05:01 PM.
This sounds promising
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So, some people are not getting what they paid for, and they should be happy they 'might be' getting something they did not order, over 3 months after they ordered them? I ordered all black mags, so I might get them faster. I have no ax to grind against CProducts, but I don't see that as a good business model. Good luck to you CProducts.
I am a big believer in free markets and such. Plan on using my free market choices, to buy elsewhere in the future. Now, if Barry would care to respond, would be glad to discuss it.
"I see NO reason that those of us on this board need to keep calling C-Products now that we know what is going on and ALL orders WILL be filled and shipped out." I see NO proof that they are going to be shipped. We have been given many excuses about the group buy.
OK, RANT off. There is a lot more I would like to say, but let's keep it civil. I will say one more thing. CProducts, I realize one satisfied customer will tell few people, but one unsatisfied customer may tell many people about their experience.
Last edited by Fred_G; 03-04-2011 at 11:21 PM.
I am curious about one thing. If CProducts are so gung ho about our order. Why does nobody from there post here? Oh, they will, in 3 weeks. I am sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, but this has gone on long enough.
I think you're analogy is unfair, It'd be more like ordering a 20" 6.8 barrel in tan and getting a 20" 6.8 barrel in black because they couldnt get tan anymore. Not trying to be a dick, and I understand you guys are frustrated, i've got an order on back order from a diff company myself, although granted not as long of a backorder, but thats a different story. What you were describing would be like ordering tan 6.8 mags and getting black 5.56 mags. That's a pretty dramatic change.
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BTW I am not frustrated, just pissed.
I'm with you on this Driller. We were lied to repeatedly by Chad saying our mags were at the coaters being coated tan. To be honest I've got 11 black mags already and only ordered because I could get them in tan. I'll believe what they say when I've test fired each and every mag because after all this I just hope the QC is worth a darn because CS sure isn't.
Remember Chad is OUT the DOOR for a reason!!! How can you blame C-Products for what a employee said and was let go for a bunch of good reasons? I am NOT going to go into more deails of what happened, other then if Chad had been honest with all of us NONE of this would have happened.
Can any of you blame the company you work for a employee stating facts that were the NOT truthful facts and making things up to get the sale??? If you can then tell me just how does ANY company stay in business when they have a rouge employee??? He has been released from C-Products. Chad is the one that needs to be placed on the whipping post.
This is who you should really be mad at.
C-Products has dealt with the problems and is now trying to make it as right as they can with all of us.
Last edited by BlueWing; 03-05-2011 at 09:46 AM.