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Nosler offering-85gr E-Tip

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#2 ·
1st I've seen it. That should be great! I haven't heard any chatter about the e-tips, but the specs make them sound very similar to Barnes TTSX.

eta: The Midsouth link says 6.8 in the description, but lists it under .243 bullets. Where is the typo?
 
#5 ·
Yep, no grooves. Barnes didn't have them either for their original X bullet. Now both Barnes and Hornady GMX have the bands but Nosler did not incorporate them. They are claiming a better copper mixture, but that's their story.
 
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#8 ·
An intern was told that .243 is 6mm. So, 6.8mm must be the same too?
 
#15 ·
I think this 85 Etip idea is a good one, the bullets seem long and i am guessing it would almost be like having a TTSX then you should really be able to get that speed out of them some people are missing with the 95's, and with no grooves you could load them however you wanted and not worry about the grooves effecting the OAL.
 
#18 ·
I had spoke with my contact about the need for a 90-100g Etip as well as brass and possibly even loaded ammo
Several of us have had these discussions with Nosler
They know there is an appetite out there

I haven't heard back, SHOT show preperations, travel, etc..
I will be out there next Thursday/Friday and have an appt with them
Suspect the info will surface before I get there!
 
#19 ·
Nosler Catalog to me
show details 10:32 AM
The 6.8mm 85gr. E-Tip will be available later this spring.
I did not ask about other weights, but this answers this thread.:a12:
 
#20 ·
Good news.. look forward to playing with that offering
 
#32 ·
However, that E-tips in other calibers require reduced loads is a concern for me.
You shouldn't consider any reloading data interchangeable. An all copper bullet is longer than a lead core bullet so loaded to the same OAL the copper bullet reduces the case capacity.

Barnes also says not to use any load data developed with other bullets.
 
#24 ·
For $47 a 100 plus shipping, make it really expensive IMO. Sticking with the stuff under $20 per hundred, unless I have a special need.
 
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#29 · (Edited)
And they are out of stock
 
#30 ·
probably becuase they havent made them yet.....
 
#31 ·
That's only a few bucks more than the ABs (which I also consider pricey but good insurance for game).
 
#33 ·
Plus since they have no lead core they resist deformation from the rifling which raises pressure. That same stiffness make em more difficult to crimp, hence the cannelure. Funny thing is I just got through talking to Nosler about crimping the .308 E-Tips for a semi-auto and they said that they can be crimped no prob. Maybe Nosler will start offering cannelures for the other calibers too.
 
#34 ·
Just looked today on the website, if you go here: http://www.nosler.com/Bullets/E-Tip-Lead-Free.aspx

You can click the drop down box, and 6.8mm is an option, as well as .243...However, the .243 is 90gr, and the 6.8 is indeed 85gr. This is out of stock on the website, at the moment, however, direct from Manf, is 26.00/50.

ETA: OAL: 1.001"; BC: 0.273, SD: 0.158 -- good numbers for a "varmint" and hunting style bullet... doubt it'll "match" that of the TSX, but will definitely fit a niche.
 
#36 · (Edited)
Some data assuming a MV of 3000 FPS
85 Nosler
Calculated Table
Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead
(yd) (in) (MOA) (in) (MOA) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (MOA)
0 -2.6 *** 0.0 *** 3012.1 2.698 1712.0 0.000 0.0 ***
50 -0.2 -0.3 0.3 0.5 2834.6 2.539 1516.2 0.051 9.0 17.3
100 1.2 1.1 1.1 1.1 2664.1 2.386 1339.3 0.106 18.6 17.8
150 1.3 0.8 2.6 1.6 2500.0 2.239 1179.4 0.164 28.9 18.4
200 -0.0 -0.0 4.7 2.3 2341.7 2.097 1034.8 0.226 39.8 19.0
250 -2.9 -1.1 7.6 2.9 2189.2 1.961 904.4 0.292 51.4 19.7
300 -7.5 -2.4 11.3 3.6 2042.3 1.829 787.1 0.363 63.9 20.3
350 -14.3 -3.9 16.0 4.4 1901.4 1.703 682.2 0.439 77.3 21.1
400 -23.5 -5.6 21.6 5.2 1766.9 1.583 589.1 0.521 91.7 21.9
450 -35.5 -7.5 28.4 6.0 1639.5 1.469 507.3 0.609 107.2 22.8
500 -50.7 -9.7 36.3 6.9 1520.2 1.362 436.1 0.704 124.0 23.7
550 -69.6 -12.1 45.6 7.9 1410.0 1.263 375.1 0.807 142.0 24.7
600 -93.0 -14.8 56.3 9.0 1310.1 1.173 323.9 0.917 161.4 25.7

VS the 95 Barnes at 2900 FPS

Calculated Table
Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead
(yd) (in) (MOA) (in) (MOA) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (MOA)
0 -2.6 *** 0.0 *** 2910.9 2.607 1787.0 0.000 0.0 ***
50 -0.1 -0.2 0.3 0.5 2750.7 2.464 1595.7 0.053 9.3 17.8
100 1.3 1.2 1.1 1.0 2596.1 2.325 1421.5 0.109 19.2 18.3
150 1.4 0.9 2.5 1.6 2446.8 2.192 1262.6 0.169 29.7 18.9
200 -0.0 -0.0 4.5 2.2 2302.4 2.062 1118.0 0.232 40.8 19.5
250 -3.0 -1.2 7.3 2.8 2162.8 1.937 986.6 0.299 52.6 20.1
300 -7.9 -2.5 10.8 3.4 2028.1 1.817 867.5 0.371 65.2 20.8
350 -14.9 -4.1 15.2 4.2 1898.4 1.700 760.1 0.447 78.7 21.5
400 -24.3 -5.8 20.5 4.9 1774.3 1.589 664.0 0.529 93.1 22.2
450 -36.5 -7.7 26.9 5.7 1656.2 1.483 578.5 0.616 108.5 23.0
500 -51.8 -9.9 34.3 6.6 1544.8 1.384 503.3 0.710 125.0 23.9
550 -70.8 -12.3 42.9 7.5 1440.9 1.291 437.9 0.811 142.7 24.8
600 -94.0 -15.0 52.8 8.4 1345.5 1.205 381.8 0.919 161.7 25.7

Minimum expansion 1800 FPS (85 N) vs. !600 FPS (95 B)
 
#39 ·
I'm sticking with SPH. If it ain't broke and is 50% of the cost - stick with it
 
#40 ·
I'll just wait for the 2nds to come out and buy a few 1000 at the 1/2 price range. I remember them selling 110 AB for 20 cents each this past year. Nothing like getting a premimum bullet for that kind of money.

I just hope that Nosler keeps cranking out those 2nds. I use them all the time but would have a hard time paying full price for the those bullets.
 
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