is it safe to say....

[dredge]

that bullets with a tangent ogive usually yeild better accuracy and easier to develope an accurate load for??? even tho they may have lower numbers i think they are a better looking design overall....what do you guys have to say on the matter....well, as far as 6.8 is conserned? i know berger uses secant design, but is more swept back for for sure....



left hornady 100gr. sp(secant)......right sierra 110 PH(tangent)

[helotaxi]

BC has nothing to do with accuracy.

[constructor]

tangent ogives are easier to tune or are more forgiving IMO

[dntfxr]

that bullets with a tangent ogive usually yeild better accuracy and easier to develope an accurate load for??? even tho they may have lower numbers i think they are a better looking design overall....what do you guys have to say on the matter....well, as far as 6.8 is conserned? i know berger uses secant design, but is more swept back for for sure....



left hornady 100gr. sp(secant)......right sierra 110 PH(tangent)

I have yet to shoot my 6.8, but IME generally a tangent ogive is much more jump tolerant than a secant ogive. So it really depends on your application, but for a new spec 6.8 a tangent ogive should be a little less picky with jump.

[mmmooretx]

tangent ogives are easier to tune or are more forgiving IMO

I am going along with constructor on this one. I plan on holding my hunting range to 300 yards and at that range I agree 100%. If I was playing with a 338 edge and a rock at 1500 yards maybe not, so I agree with this platform.
I also got my 115 gr. SMKs today to try something different with H322. Also I got my Accu-Shot BT-13 monopod for my Magpul PRS so hopefully my groups will improve. I can foresee an eye problem at work this week.

[dredge]

i'll have to wait for the range to dry up, but i've shot a ton of sierra bullets without one single problem so i may jst have to stick with them. i jst wish they made 110 or 115 GMK BTHP....

[mmmooretx]

i'll have to wait for the range to dry up, but i've shot a ton of sierra bullets without one single problem so i may jst have to stick with them. i jst wish they made 110 or 115 GMK BTHP....

Well I would also like to see an 100gr SGK. I know the boat tail does not do much for stability at the "lower" ranges, but I really like the BT for reloading over the flat base. As an off the wall thought would you use a Berger hunting 100 gr. if they had it or one of the proven Barnes? Always fun debate items...
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[dredge]

Well I would also like to see an 100gr SGK. I know the boat tail does not do much for stability at the "lower" ranges, but I really like the BT for reloading over the flat base. As an off the wall thought would you use a Berger hunting 100 gr. if they had it or one of the proven Barnes? Always fun debate items...
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i proly would if i had a rifle built for the main purpose of being accurate....like yours mike. if ever i do get into alot of hogs i would also proly make the switch to barnes. i jst can't argue with results and the success many people on this site have had with them...people like HTR, ccoker and bwilson. IMHO i think pretty much any bullet will do the trick on hog if you hit them in the neck. i read somewhere on texas boars i think that a guy put down a pretty big one with a 70gr. NBT out of a .243 to the neck...also read tons about guys using 60gr. nosler partitions in .223's to take out plenty of them along with deer on other sites. i myself wouldn't hesitate to squeeze of on one up to 250lbs using pro hunters. here in west texas deer jst don't get as big as they do up north and so i have to say that pretty much any bullet out of any cal. that isn't designed to frag will do the job...bullets like the barnes varmint grenade, v-max, NBT's and real light JHP's mainly out in varmint cals...like 22-250 and 243 that can really drive them fast. i don't consider the v-max in 6.8 to be like these...however i have to yet try them, but is jst what i've seen and read about them so far. i use 130 & 140 NBT's in my 270wsm, but have yet to take a deer with it since i got it last year...i does have a thicker tapered jacket and is reccomended for hunting, but i jst don't know if it will or will not stay together with a 3300 muzzle velocity. i'm thinking it proly will, but can't say for sure. tht's what i'm mainly gonna deer hunt with tho....hopefully i will find out this winter...i know i'm proly off topic here, but i like to get on here and talk myself....not really have fun debates tho like you say.....but i know those were not your intentions at all......

[dredge]

mmmoo, i am also real curious to hear how the SMK's are gonna work out for you....that may eventually turn out to be the go to round i choose for my 6.8 spc(now, that's a debatable topic, cuz my go to bullet would be used for everything). i can't help it i jst really like a BTHP and the hornady ones jst look they would be more finikey to find a good load for...but i will find that out soon enough. i also crimped this last batch even tho they didn't have canelure, but hopefully i won't notice as many fliers. i'm really gonna try to exersice some better trigger control too. honestly tho, i'm thinking for shooting targets it would be nice to have a selectable gas block and jst turn off the gas and cycle each round by hand.....H, that maybe someting you could put together pretty easily and i know that would be a good plus if i ever got a piston system.

[mmmooretx]

mmmoo, i am also real curious to hear how the SMK's are gonna work out for you....that may eventually turn out to be the go to round i choose for my 6.8 spc(now, that's a debatable topic, cuz my go to bullet would be used for everything). i can't help it i jst really like a BTHP and the hornady ones jst look they would be more finikey to find a good load for...but i will find that out soon enough. i also crimped this last batch even tho they didn't have canelure, but hopefully i won't notice as many fliers. i'm really gonna try to exersice some better trigger control too. honestly tho, i'm thinking for shooting targets it would be nice to have a selectable gas block and jst turn off the gas and cycle each round by hand.....H, that maybe someting you could put together pretty easily and i know that would be a good plus if i ever got a piston system.

I have a query out to HTR on new (prep'd) brass vs. used, as all of my used is currently loaded waiting for range time. I will get some data to you in Max. of a week. I am going to use HTR's set up of 2.30 COAL, 115 SMK, and 28.5 gr. of H322. I think he was getting in the neighborhood of 26XX fps. but for range/trigger training that is fine with me. It will be interesting to see what size groups I get with this set up.