We are all going for a walk in Spring 2010 up capital hill!!

[sharpshooter08]

Hey guys just came across and can see the importance of it. Please go to this site (http://secondamendmentmarch.com/index.htm) and read what is ging to take place in spring of 2010 in D.C.


If you cant make it look for or start your own march on the same day to your states capital!!

[Jack-O]

If they are not marching with thier guns, then dont bother. no one will care. :wink:

[snort]

If they are not marching with thier guns, then dont bother. no one will care. :wink:

And if they do march with them, they're basically ****ed. Thats an implied threat to the powers that be. Imagine if a mob of angry people with weapons gathered outside your door.

Not saying we don't have a right to be pissed, just stating how the cops/politicians will take it.

[MiltonTiger]

And the Word Wide OB loving Media will pound away at how all of the participants are angry, white, and male.

[TackDriver68]

The previous post is right.

The simple fact is that 60% or more people in this country have no clue what the constitution says. So it doesn't matter how many people join in or how justified it really is, there is a large segment of out population who-thanks to schools with classes on basketball instead of American Government- that is incapable of seeing why a group would want to get rid of their President. It doesn't matter how bad he ****s things up. There will still be a large number of people who think he is a god.

Come on...these people-%53 of Americans-gave a man their vote blindly, having no clue about what he did before becoming a senator, you know all those years when he worked his way up the corrupt political ladder in Illinois.. I still have not heard ANYONE, EVER, even try to give a good explanation of exactly what a 'Community Planner' does.

I think many of us have forgotten that the Presidency is first and foremost a job. Every candidate should be forced to write and sign-on their own- a 2-page resume and then no more than 5 pages stating where they stand on important issues.They should be forced show past experience that warrants the American people to entrust that person with the job. If they cannot, in 2 pages show that they deserve the job, then they shouldn't be considered.

No more of this standing in front of a group of seniors one day and saying one thing, and then going before the UAW and saying the exact opposite thing the next.

This is the only way to ensure that elections stop being decided by a catchy ad or slogan, turning on money from cooperations or special interests. By to make the process affordable, limit campaign contributions to $5 per person. Make the candidates take a stand on the issues, in writing. If their past or actions say otherwise then the media would have the obligation to call them on it.

[Jack-O]

At this point we should all be beyond caring what some cop or politician thinks about us bearing arms. This is OUR country and we may ber arms when and where we choose. We have the duty to overthrow an unconstitutional form of government and a right to change that constitution to whatever we choose. We must make a statement that we will no longer be pushed around and threatened by swarms of federal agencies and busybody beuraucrats, and that thier ilk will be met with armed and violent opposition.

Squeaky wheels get grease, but stone throwers get things done.

Sam Adams reportedly told some fence sitters:

If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

[jerrykn]

I for one hope to meet your there sharpshooter08.

If standing up and being counted for the 2cnd Amandment isn't worth a trip to DC I don't know what is.

I understand others concern about the media and politicos but I think we all need to try and be heard.

Of course if we all showed up with firearms the media Would have a field day calling us a bunch of crazy gun toting Rednecks but a huge crowd of pro 2cnd citizens would put some fear into our "lawmakers".

Jerry

[bedlamite]

During this march, the press will find the guy dressed in mismatched and unkempt fatigues that hasn't showered or shaved in a week. He will be wearing 7 empty holsters and carrying an upside down Chinese flag. He will not be able to articulate his point clearly, and will come off looking like an angry redneck with a 7th grade education. He's going to be plastered all over the TV and the anti-gun crowd is going to use him as an example of why the latest gun ban bill should be passed.

I'm not saying this march is a bad thing, just that sometimes we are our own worst enemy and we need to be careful how we go about this. Propaganda is what will win or lose this war.

[JesseJames]

If they are not marching with thier guns, then dont bother. no one will care. :wink:

And if they do march with them, they're basically ****ed. Thats an implied threat to the powers that be. Imagine if a mob of angry people with weapons gathered outside your door.

Not saying we don't have a right to be pissed, just stating how the cops/politicians will take it.

I guess that's all dependent on how many people there are. 10-20 people, there all F-ed.

Now if we got all of the members of this site together (what 10,000 or so) and did an armed protest then it would't be so easy for the big-ol Govt. to just squash us like bugs.

It's not going to happen and not time for it yet but..........................

[Equalizer_2]

While we have a duty to overthrow a corrupt government it must be done legally.

Marching into DC, carrying guns, would cause some kind of confrontation that the media would blame on the American Gun Owner even though not a single round was fired by the gun owners. The feds have been known to shoot their own and blame someone else (Ruby Ridge).

I think the idea has merit but must be planned and executed properly and legally (read that with required city permits, etc.).

Here in WA there is a group called the Pink Pistols, it is an organization of both male and female homosexuals that support gun rights, so it would be important to include such groups in the planning and execution. It would also be important to include as diverse a group of American Citizens of as many cultures as possible and include a dress code. NO camo of any type.

I attended a Tyranny Response Team rally once dressed in a suit while all others wore their everyday clothes. One of the Million Moms supporters asked if I was a politician or what. I told them I was a concerned citizen. The best appearance would make the best impact, just like going to a job interview. If you can, wear your work clothes be it a hard hat or a suit to show the diversity of the support for our rights, but they must look good and not allow the media to make it out that only the uneducated are protesting a "commonsense" law.

Why does the mainstream Democratic party push failed laws? For the same reason terrorists and Communists push their political agendas, they "believe" that they are smarter than you are and thus should be ruling over you. The bad part of this statement is that unfortunately this last election had enough voters vote to tell them they were correct, 40% of the Democratic voters were on some type of government subsistance.

[brooks93]

so we all get gun cases with wheels and pull them behind us. they won't know if they are empty or not.

I fought to defend the constitution and I shouldn't have one of my rights taken away from me by someone that hasn't

[scratchy]

Unarmed and in our everyday best is how I think this should play. By
carrying even airsoft or blue guns we appear to be a threat in a city
that outlaws crayon drawings of guns. The Feeb would respond
forcefully and any message we were trying to convey would be lost.

I plan on participating in this March and I certainly hope my kids can
too. 2 are soldiers and have clear understanding of the 2nd.

Another thing we need to learn to do is to use the libtards tactics to get
the word out. Think how BHO got elected, how Jesse keeps his plagiarist,
adulterous, racist mug in front of everyone, How Sharpton keeps the
press up, THEN WE USE THE SAME.

[Jamesb74]

Unarmed and in our everyday best is how I think this should play. By
carrying even airsoft or blue guns we appear to be a threat in a city
that outlaws crayon drawings of guns. The Feeb would respond
forcefully and any message we were trying to convey would be lost.

I plan on participating in this March and I certainly hope my kids can
too. 2 are soldiers and have clear understanding of the 2nd.

Another thing we need to learn to do is to use the libtards tactics to get
the word out. Think how BHO got elected, how Jesse keeps his plagiarist,
adulterous, racist mug in front of everyone, How Sharpton keeps the
press up, THEN WE USE THE SAME.

Find the conservitive version of George Soros and we have it made.

True that it should be a respectable approach to doing it Give respect to earn respect. I would think carrying empty gun cases and empty holsters would have there symbolic measure and keep the Fed dogs at bay.

[Bull001]

Eh, it's a tough one. I would want all of us to carry our rifles empty. But chances are that could turn into a disaster. Certainly wouldn't want anyone to get killed, or shot... or arrested. One thing is for sure: can't act like ignorant fanatical liberals and get out of control. We would have to be on our best behavior. But keeping track of all those unloaded guns to make sure they were unloaded... sounds too difficult, and DC would never stand for it. Even if we petitioned for it and all that jazz... Hell if i know how it works.

Would be nice though, to have a bunch of honest, hard working citizens show up with their guns to show em we mean business.... Everyone has to get off work though. It's not like we just have this free time like liberal college students or douchbags who don't work and feed off of others like masquitos.

Wish we had more time to do these things, but someone has to keep the country moving. Even though we have a bunch of assholes doing everything they can to stop us.

[billclo]

I would expect a march with even unloaded guns, no mags/ammo on person would be met with a extreme reaction by not only the media but the pols/cops. I suspect that the .mil would be called out, with a couple armed A10s hovering overhead to keep an eye on things. It'd only take one moron with a itchy trigger finger, even an accidental discharge, to turn things into a massacre.

Recall how things worked out for the UNARMED WWI vets who marched on DC demanding their pensions. Got ran down and killed by the cavalry for their trouble.

Things are too far gone for such a march to have any chance at all of succeeding. Sorry to be such a pessimist, but there you have it.

[Jamesb74]

One of the community colleges around here had a protest a while back that came from the college shootings that happened. It was a protest of the fact that schools (college level) didn't allow students to keep guns for self defense. It stretched over the course of a week or so. The protest consisted of people wearing empty holsters and carrying small empty gun cases.

Now my point is it was done at a highly liberal location and did not get out of hand the campus police were nervous but nothing happened. Unfortunatly no rules were changed and it didn't get much publicity because of the biased media but it was still effective and got the point across.
Since that was such a small scale it could be done on a larger scale with more effect.

If you give up now then we already lost.
I am just saying that this is an idea. It could be said we did it peacfully at first.

[kalwasart]

If this march happens I will be there and all of our employess at the companies expense ( I do not think any foreign suppliers will be there - do you).


Art - SSA

[pantherdude]

If this march happens I will be there and all of our employess at the companies expense ( I do not think any foreign suppliers will be there - do you).


Art - SSA
Wow! Can I come work for you?

[Bull001]

I wanna make bullets fer Silver State Armory too!

[AA717driver]

Carrying a weapon of any sort (real, cardboard, loaded, unloaded...) would be a PR disaster. The point of this march is to make a point about the depth and breadth of support for the Constitution--as it was written AND intended.

The goal should be to appear as mainstream as possible.

The vast majority of non-owners out there are scared to death of guns and, to a slightly lesser extent, gun owners. They think that we're a bunch of crazed red-necks and the media would like nothing more than to portray us as such.

This should be a march to galvanize support of the Constitution with the 2nd Amendment as the focal point. The Constitution is pretty clearly written with the blanks filled in by the writings of the Founding Fathers. Misguided (at best) people have tried to twist the words and make it "a living document" to further their own ends. That is contrary... What the heck, I'm preaching to the choir.

Anyway, this march is a PR move, not a revolution. We need to market ourselves to the 'middle-grounders' out there--you know, the ones who check the box marked "no opinion" on every survey. :roll:

I think work clothes, business casual, suit, Sunday Best--whatever, just don't look like you're going to war (unless that IS your job). If you're a LEO and you can't wear your uniform, business casual. I KNOW my PC/legal department pansy-run company would fire me in a heartbeat if I wear my uniform.

We're making a sales call on the country.

TC

[Jack-O]

The time for middle ground has past. we are rapidly approaching the point where if we do not take radical action NOW, that we will have to resort to violence and force just to regain our country. While you are waiting for those luke warm gun owners toget on board, the useful idiots (socialists) will have run you over.

far better that I dare mighty things and fail than to take company with those poor meek souls who know neither victory nor defeat.

You need to go to your front door, look outside and come to grips with the reality that IN YOUR LIFETIME this country will never again be as strong as it was today. :|

[AA717driver]

Jack-O: This march IS radical action. The crooks in D.C. intend to steal our country from us but more important to them is to retain their seats. If they think the herd is siding with us, they will back off.

All we can hope to do is slow the slide into Socialism (and with it the loss of freedom). What differentiates us from those who want to steal our rights is that we rise up and stop a certain action by them and then go back to our families and jobs. They just move on to another issue meant to undermine the Constitution.

They know it may not happen in their lifetimes--or their children's lifetimes but they are willing to work toward the goal of "changing" the U.S., laying the ground work that others of their ilk can finish (possibly several generations from now).

People like us have been split off from the herd and they know it. Our numbers may rise and fall but with our education system and media in their hands, we will steadily decline.

Until something happens to shock the herd back to their senses, any 'radical action' on our part will end up as just another "Ruby Ridge" incident that will get you 15 minutes of fame before being forgotten by the masses.

[edit]: One thing I forgot to add is that WHEN we have another Ruby Ridge, THAT is the time to show up en masse at the site (or as close as we can get) to force the Government to operate in the 'light of day'. Can we pull it off? I don't know.

Sad.

TC

[Jack-O]

TC,
I agree with you, that we need to show up at the ruby ridges and those types of things. We did actually see a good response to those tax protestor dentists a while back, so there is hope for us yet.

The problem I have is that there are marches on washington every week. They dont get anything done and nobody cares about them. hell the news dont even report them anymore unless its a minority group.

We have the God given right to bear arms. DC has no right to restrict us or our rights in any way. we OWN THEM, not the other way round. I dont answer to the cops of DC or the politician or the lawyers or the judges. I answer to my God and myself.

This march would be no different than any other march if it's not clear that its REALLY DIFFERENT.

every member of the crowd carrying a rifle (unloaded is fine) send the message that we are over thier ****. They no longer fear us because we never hold them accountable. It's time for the guns to come out (even if we dont use them yet) and a real march on washington happen.

Trust me, if even 100 armed men marched on the capitol building they would freak the f out. I doubt they would start anything with that many men with the resolve to go to the capitol and demand to be heard. If they did, it would be a friggin massacre and our side would win.

They need to be afraid for thier lives. When they lost that fear, they stopped caring what you really think.

[AA717driver]

TC,

They need to be afraid for thier lives. When they lost that fear, they stopped caring what you really think.

Nothing truer has ever been said.

Good post.

TC